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Steve Price & Others Blaming “The Left”


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No, I did not predict this at all. I am not just talking about Trump’s win. I am talking about the vile response to “The Left” and the placement of blame on “The Left” within Australia.

Yes, “The Left” the two words pronounced by the right-wing with such venom that it gives rise to a vision that “The Left” are fetid stains on society – just parasitic bots wrapped in ribbons of shit.

Last night as I saw this video land in my news feed, I was pretty annoyed to be honest. This epitomises exactly why “The Left” (in this instance, leftist women in general), are plain exhausted and why we are responding emotionally to the result of the US election.

A Rampant Underlying Disease

Throughout the entire campaign, women from “The Left” endured a rampant rise of misogyny, sexism, an entire video demonstrating how men perpetuate the notion that men can just claim our bodies whenever they want, that women are nothing but an uncessary appendage to their sexual parts, how we should be jailed for abortion and the biggest message of all that a woman cannot be trusted to be the President.

Trump played this card because this ingrained distrust that women can be strong leaders is a rampant underlying disease. This is evident not just in America, but in Australia as well.

Women are angry, emotional and distressed at the outcome and rightly so. The championing of Trump’s sexism and misogyny impacts on women at different levels.

If you have been a victim of sexual assault or rape the impact of Trumps words are more painful and bring to the surface the fear of powerlessness and the reality and horror of sexual assault and rape happening again and reinforced as “okay”.

If you are a survivor of domestic violence, Trump’s words make escaping seems so much more harder, as who will believe you? You are just a woman.

If you are a woman of colour, Trump’s words added a quadruple layer to the extra layers of discrimination faced every single day and the terrifying reality of civil liberties ignored at an even deeper level.

If you have to face the agonising decision of abortion, Trump’s words make this not a personal decision, but label you in the lower echelons of society as a jailed criminal.

If you aim to be the boss and not just the secretary one day, or if you aspire to lead a board, a company or the country, your dream changed from a dream of hope and possibilities to a nightmare of climbing the highest mountain on earth and probably dying before you reached the top.

Every time Trump opened his mouth and every time people cheered it on, it chipped away at our agency. Agency we have fought for, that we marched for, that we slept out in the dark and reclaimed the night for. Agency we hold dear because we value and understand that women before us were tortured, abused, force fed, sexually assaulted and died so we have the agency we have today. Agency that is so far from complete agency that we are still fighting for every single day.

Women are NOTHING

Women know there are plenty of people who support women’s rights and are very aware there are plenty that don’t. However, I think we have come to a point where we feel that men who truly hate women, or men and women who do not believe women should have equality and agency, are in the moderate level of minority.  I would hope to think as a whole, we respect the efforts of women before us, and we recognise we have come very far; and many men and women have joined this crusade.

To sit and witness millions upon millions of Americans champion Trump’s contempt for women, and endorse him by rewarding him with the Presidency and legitimising that his treatment and contempt for women should be the new norm; sent us through a time warp of pure hell and it was a chilling and terrifying awakening.

This was a terrifying awareness because, regardless of all of our progress and the fights we have endured, there were millions upon millions upon millions of people thumping the table and screaming “WOMEN ARE NOTHING!!!!” “MINORITIES ARE NOTHING!!!” when they cast their vote. Yet you stand there bewildered wondering why we are angry.

Lecturing and Hectoring

On The Project, the panel asked a question to Jamilla Rizvi about the election result and how she was feeling about it. Jamilla detailed how excited she was when she woke up and it was a big moment for women, but now it has all changed.

Steve Price, a right-wing commentator, interrupted Jamilla’s answer, by jumping in before she could speak to a follow-up question about the demographic statistics of voters, of which white women factored in the Trump vote quite highly.

Price jumped in (no, he doesn’t need to lean in) and started putting his point across. His point that this was about ‘Real America.” Jamilla cut him off and asked him to “Cut the Bullshit about ‘Real America’.

Jamilla wanted to stress two points. That ALL America is real America and that ‘Real America’ is not just the parts where Trump supporters exist, but ALL Americans are Real. A very valid point. The other point she made as he was having a go at her for ‘interrupting him’ (after he interrupted her) was the question was directed to her. Jamilla is a strong woman. Strong women make concerted efforts to claim back their rightful place when men try to take it away. Her rightful place was simply to be given the respect to answer a question that was directed at her.

Every woman sitting at home watching, even if they didn’t see this coming, have witnessed and experienced the next blow. The ire, wrath and fury that rises up within a contemptuous man, when he is in a face-off with a strong woman. The desperate and surging need that rises up from within to put the woman back in her place.

Price hit back with the “put her in her place triple whammy.”  He hit back with the intent to apply blame and words to evoke self-doubt.  The triple blow was that this was a two pronged barb. One aimed at women and the other aimed at “The Left.”

Price replied with this virulent retort:

“This is the reason why Donald Trump won, because people like YOU lecture and hector people.”

When Will Men Take Responsibility?

I predicted that Trump supporters would gloat and I predicted they would ridicule and I predicted they would name call. However, I did not predict the blame that they would put on “The Left.”

There are many on the left calling for ‘calm’ in their response to those who are salivating over the Trump win.  Instead of insisting we call it out, now we are being told to respond with kindness and acceptance.

When will the women who fight for equality, ever get to take a rest from absolutely having to defend our position? Will it ever be over?

When will the ‘Anti-women men from the Right’ take responsibility for their own behaviours?  If they took responsibility for their own words and behaviours, women would not be forced into a position time and time again to speak out against the abject misrepresentation, stigmatising rhetoric or other degrading nonsense they project.

In 2016, women have now endured hundreds of years of men speaking over the top of women, interrupting them, invalidating their views, telling them that they are wrong and that it is all their fault.

Why does it constantly need to be explained to men like Steve Price, that the actions he displayed (interrupting, correcting, criticising and blaming) are a constant women face on a daily basis.  When will they understand that these words and behaviours lessen the value of a woman’s point of view and deligimitimises her true existence?

When comes the point in time that these types of men, clue onto the fact that it is their behaviours that invoke the response from women that they see as hectoring and lecturing. 

When will they ever remain silent and listen quietly and patiently, (as we are expected to do) and reflect on their own behaviour?

Will there ever be a point in time where they say “I didn’t realise that my words and behaviours are actually quite damaging to women. I’m Sorry.”

Will there ever be a time when these men carefully consider the opinions of women instead of striking back and deflecting blame back and/or pushing a woman into the corners of self-doubt?

Men like Steve Price occupy a completely different space in society than women do. A space where they have been given the legitimate right to cry foul and throw tantrums if 100% attention is not focused on them at all times. Where their power is reinforced because everything they say is always validated, or it is an underlying expectation of the dyadic exchange.

They are in a self appointed position of privilege and power and they are so fearful of letting that go. In a classic fight or flight response, they fight back.

When will the time come when men will stop letting the fear of losing the position of power and privilege take hold and take flight from their own fears instead of fighting back?

I have found this applies very strongly to men who sit on the right of the spectrum, not just towards women, but towards minorities, but most severely towards “The Left.”

Blaming The Left

Since yesterday, I have had three men approach me about the Trump win. They know I am very pro-Labor and very much against right-wing views. All approached me as Trump supporters in different ways, but the message was the same: to “Put the Lefty-woman back in her place.”

One did it with the ridicule approach. His tactic was to force me to concede how wrong I am and that my views are not the correct views and so many more people disagree with me and not just him. He made accusation after accusation of how wrong the left is. How it is the fault of the left because they chose Hilary.

He then said:

“Everything that has happened today – Is your fault. The Left created it.”

To be frank, I lost my cool. All I saw before me was a man who had endorsed and gave legitimacy to the contempt Trump has for women. I also saw a man who was part of a powerful system who openly and willingly enabled a very dangerous place for women and minorities. On top of my feeling of terror I had been lugging around since the Florida count, I was then dealing with a very deep level of disgust and disbelief towards this man before me.

The upset was the reality of seeing Trump emerge as the winner. The words and sounds of everyone trying to find their position to accept and respect, never question and obey, or to revolt, was like watching one of those old movies with Hitler and Churchill, but it was in colour. All of this gave rise to a day of accumulative negative affect, which simply combusted into a critical negative affect.

I directed every single emotion in a long tirade of beratement towards this man, who emerged as the first man who thought he had the legitimate power to ‘put me back in my place.’

Just like Steve Price and just like the other two men who approached me, this man placed the blame of the divided country, and the acceptance of xenophobia, homophobia, sexism, misogyny, ableism and sectarianism as the path to a better world of “The Left.”

However, the Right need to take flight from their own fears instead of fighting “The Left.”

Born to Rule

Those who sit on the right elevate themselves into a position of legitimate power. Not legitimate by position of actual authority, but legitimate power because they believe they are in the true position of authority over “The Left.”

“The Left” must obey or they will be punished when we do obtain legitimate power of authority.

The Left must bow down and apologise for not following the perfect plans of the right and ruining society. (It’s all Labor’s fault! The Greens are Terrorists!” Echo…Echo..)

The belief of ‘born to rule’ and the reinforcement that “The Left” are the dregs of society and the right are the societal elite; is deeply, deeply ingrained in their psyche and culture, through their ideology of Individualism, the ethical framework they adopt of egoism and their vengeful hateful stigmatising rhetoric against every single group “The Left” stand for.

The Fear that really gave us Trump

Just like men who need to take responsibility for their words and behaviours, when will the time come when the right wing will stop letting the fear of losing their self-appointed position of power and privilege take hold and fight their own fears instead of fighting and blaming “The Left?”

When will they look deep and hard at their own back yard that Individualism and egoism are the antecedents for punitive welfare policies, harsh cuts to public services and welfare, their war on the collective right to bargain for a fair wage and fair conditions and the stigmatising and debasing rhetoric that has shunned and cornered the lower and working middle class?

When will the time come that they reflect on their own behaviours and sincely enact change, just as they are demanding “The Left” should do?

If the Right reflect on how individualism and egoism underpin some of the most destructive outcomes for society, they can actually bring themselves down a level and sincerely listen and work on real solutions.

If the right decide to not reflect, but remain on the trajectory that they must be obeyed and followed, as the world needs their Paternalistic guiding hand; this divide will continue to grow.

Individualism and Egoism drive the Right’s sense of legitimate power. The conundrum for the Right is; if they recognise Individualism and Egoism as the cause of abject poverty and divisiveness, the only solution is a collective and unified approach with the Left, adopting a socialist viewpoint with socialist solutions.

That in turn, would create a fear of losing ‘legitimate’ power. That is the moment where they need to decide flight or fight. Do they run away from Individualism and Egoism or continue to fight “The Left?”

If the Right are truly concerned about the growing swell of people in abject poverty and despair who have risen to elect Donald Trump, then those on the Right need to fight their own fears, and stop fighting “The Left” and make a serious attempt to address inequality.

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About trishcorry

I love to discuss Australian Politics. My key areas of interest are Welfare, Disadvantage, emotions in the workplace, organisational behaviour, stigma, leadership, women, unionism. I am pro-worker and anti-conservativism/Liberalism. I am a proud member of the Australian Labor Party and you will find my blog posts written from a Laborist / Progressive Slant.

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50 thoughts on “Steve Price & Others Blaming “The Left”

  1. The Left in the USA was Bernie Sanders, the Democrats right wing wanted to be top dog, much in the same way the AWU/SDA Alliance works within Australia, however established opolitical parties the world over are losing members, and unless they come up with some radical changes they will disappear, Bernie could have won the election, the yanks were looking for a revolution, so when Bernie was scrubbed they chose the only other anti-establishment candidate Trump.

    Hopefully Labor will learn a lesson from this, and be the first Australian political party to democratize itself because 40% of something is worth a whole lot more than 100% of nothing.

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    Posted by townsvilleblog | November 11, 2016, 7:41 am
  2. I reckon it is time the word “Left” was banished from the dictionary {and me being a Left hander too}
    This has been a tag used to bash anyone slightly to the left of Ghengis Khan and a derogatory term used by MSM to attack anyone with opposing views.
    It is also a tag used by supposed progressives to belt those over the head who don’t agree with their own narrow blinkered view.
    Too often the “Left” whoever they really are, use the term to turn nasty on those they once proclaimed as their own .
    A classic example was pointed out to me yesterday.
    Julian Assange and Wikkileaks were the darlings of the “Left” for his exposes on Iraq ,wars , dirty deals etc
    They admired him for his forthright selfless effort in exposing truth
    And them Julian had the hid to expose some dirty deeds of Hillary, and the truth and justice warrior then became a traitor to the cause, a Putin mouthpiece, an enemy of the “Left”
    The “Left” must wear some of the blame for alienating so many Americans, for, at the slightest mention of Trump, you were branded redneck, racist, imbecile, brain dead and the rest of the rhetoric that was sure to get peoples backs up.
    Don’t get me wrong, Trump is dangerous. real dangerous !
    But should we not be looking to the reasons thousands formed support groups and sprang up all ovr social media in their 10s of 1000s
    Muslims for Trump, Latinos for Trump, Blacks for Trump Unionist for Trump, etc

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    Posted by cornlegend | November 11, 2016, 9:39 am
  3. I feel deeply for you, Trish. I may never come to terms with a Trump victory, but I’m not an American. I think that the Left needs to be more assertive, especially on climate change. I am pleased that the decision has been made to oppose Turnbull/Abbott’s ban on asylum seekers.

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    Posted by Christopher Firmstone | November 11, 2016, 9:41 am
  4. I will be out for the day but one thing was me stumped and maybe one of the commenters could help
    Who exactly is of the Left and what are the basic qualifications?
    Now I’m in a quandry as yesterday on one site I was branded a ‘raving Leftie” then on the AIMN a Greens nutter had me down as right winger .
    What particular belief strips away a “Left” tag ?
    If I supported closing all coal mines yesterday, banning cars, banning logging but had a dislike of Islam, I would be ?

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    Posted by cornlegend | November 11, 2016, 10:02 am
  5. I am a Leftie and proud of it, I stand for those who are unable to stand for themselves like the elderly who have faced 3 bn in cuts over the past 3 years, the elderly in nursing homes, the frail, and while I too am disabled, I feel for the aged who are being fed muck in nursing homes, cheap and nasty stuff, so they can make a profit from these peoples misery. The Turnbull govt is in the process of cutting yet another 1.8 bn from the aged care budget. These people have worked hard all throughout their lives and expect ‘decent’ treatment in their old age. We all age, so this is what is coming to us when we are too frail for our family to look after us any more. Fight good people, fight for ‘decent’ treatment at work and in your old age, don’t miss a chance to oppose these ultra right wing thugs, who are skimming off the top for themselves. Fight, good people, fight!

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    Posted by townsvilleblog | November 11, 2016, 12:10 pm
  6. I watched Steve Price late last night and my thought was ‘yes Steve – at it again’. Thank heavens Bickmore told him to shut up as he was being totally disrespectful of Jamilla.

    As for the election of Donald Trump I have to agree whole heartedly with you. He won purely because of his ability to tap into the same people who watch the reality TV programs, those who just want to get away from the real problems of their day. People have become so ‘dumbed’ down they feel they have nowhere to go and will follow anyone who will tell them that he would “make America great again”.

    The young people all around America and here too I might add, probably all around the world actually are the ones who have been left feeling absolutely devistated. My daughter rang me beside herself because her 17 year daughter (a lovely socially well adjusted young lady) was so angry about Trumps victory. She is asking how this could possibly be happening. How is it that the young peoples of our countries can see through all of bulls…t and the majority of so-called adults can’t. What’s happening in the world scares the pants off them.

    We all need to pay more attention to what is really happening with inequality being one of the biggest fears of our world today – the other climate change. We need to act of both fronts.

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    Posted by sandrasearle | November 11, 2016, 12:34 pm
    • I can’t believe the arrogance that came from a very sad ignorance. I can only assumed that you know what the real problems are, but does it ever occur to you that problems you have, might not be that same as your next door neighbors. To insinuate that Trump’s voters or supporters are low minded, low class citizen, just because they choose to see Hilary for what she really is, her many lies, deception and corruption, while you choose a different view that she is entitled to it, it’s time to have a female leader to somehow seal the gender equality, that it was just an honest mistakes with her emails, after 40 years in politics? But hey, you’ve accepted her apologies why can’t you accept Trumps? He did apologise, you do know that, don’t you? The amount of hypocrisy here is incredible. If that 17 year old girl is really well adjusted then I’m 100% sure she will wake up the next day and she’ll be just fine, no one is going to attack her. The only group that I’ve seen and heard so far that has the foul mouth bullies Hilary’s supporters. You see this on social media a lot, bunch of whining egotistical self-righteous kind. You teach that girl to stop pretending to be better than anyone who have a different view than hers and start respecting.
      I think if you travel to the 3rd world countries, you will find a whole lot of different problems that human race are faced right now.

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      Posted by Soul | November 14, 2016, 5:16 pm
  7. Well before I get to Steve Price the left and Right terminology has been with the English political since 1679 or thereabouts
    The government of the day sits on the right side of the Speaker {Australia as well}
    The Tory Government {Born to rule} has held power far longer than it opposition,hence it`s occupied the Right side of the HoR more often

    The Left has bee a derogatory term for those opposing Tory rule

    To those opposing Tory rule “Tory” Is a derogatory term meaning “robber or brigand,from the old Irish/Gaelic”
    Just don`t call me late for dinner

    Steve Price must have two arseholes because a big turd like that needs more than one exit 😡

    Here`s Encyclopaedia Brittanica on Whigs&Tories
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Whig-Party-England

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    Posted by Bighead1883 | November 11, 2016, 12:50 pm
    • That is interesting Biggy. I didn’t know that. I might use that one day. Is it any correlation do you think that Jesus is seated on the right hand of the father? (Apostle’s Creed)
      I remember in year 5 a teacher trying to force my left handed friend to write with her right hand and hold her left hand behind her back. Mum said it was because some idiots believed left handed people were from the Devil.
      By the way, my left handed friend ended up becoming a doctor.

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      Posted by trishcorry | November 11, 2016, 1:06 pm
  8. Yes Trish,I clearly remember teachers trying to get all to right with their right hand
    I did one year of Catholic school [holy communion} and all the nuns hit the left handed kids with the side of the ruler to break their “devilish ‘ habit
    I became an atheist at age 8

    I`m fairly sure I have the “Right&Left” in Westminster politics quite right as I used to debate this with political science students in the late 60`s
    Britannica and Newnes encyclopaedias were the Google of that day

    “You lot are always in Opposition,go sit on the Left where you belong” was the big debating comeback from the half smart arses
    My comeback was “being a Socialist makes me human unlike Tory animals”

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    Posted by Bighead1883 | November 11, 2016, 1:34 pm
  9. The right [sic] with their right hand was meant by me to coincide with your article 😯

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    Posted by Bighead1883 | November 11, 2016, 1:47 pm
  10. Those religiously inclined may want to start falling to their knees and praying for divine intervention to influence the

    “faithless elector”

    It’s still theoretically possible for Donald Trump not to become president. But the near-impossibility all depends on the electoral college and the strange US system.

    Donald Trump might have won the election by getting more of the votes in the electoral college than Hillary Clinton did. But strictly and legally, it’s not the election that just happened that matters: it’s the one where the members of the electoral college go and represent their voters and pick their candidate.
    That’s due to happen on 12 December, at meetings in each state where all Republican or Democrat representatives – depending on how each state voted – will cast their vote. And it will almost certainly go one way, with most of the electors casting their ballots for Donald Trump and making him President.

    But that could, theoretically, not happen. Members of the electoral college could potentially change their mind – becoming what is known as a “faithless elector” – and so cast their ballot for somebody else, or not at all.

    The phenomenon of the faithless voter is giving people hope that perhaps Donald Trump won’t actually become the President of the US. It’s almost impossible that it would make any difference, but it does show that Donald Trump’s path to presidency might not be simple.

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    Posted by cornlegend | November 11, 2016, 3:50 pm
  11. John Pilger: Liberals created Trump by pushing corrupt Clinton, but now act surprised
    https://www.rt.com/news/366371-pilger-trump-clinton-liberals/#.WCWDjgGbHZ8.twitter

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    Posted by Bighead1883 | November 11, 2016, 6:59 pm
    • I think it is very easy to put ‘corrupt’ in front of a woman’s name. They did it to Julia Gillard and now Hilary. The amount of instances where Trump is actually corrupt and blatantly admitted it, shows there is something very gendered about that. Not just a man-woman thing, but a man-woman in leadership thing. They have more faith in a corrupt man to lead the country, than a woman. Every single corruption claim against Clinton has been debunked. Trump goes to court in a few weeks for fraud. What a bizarre period in our history. I think there were many strategic failures in the campaign team for Clinton. If only we could repeat this with another woman and see the result – say Elizabeth Warren for example.

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      Posted by trishcorry | November 11, 2016, 7:52 pm
      • I understand the Glass Ceiling and all that goes with it,this is not the point here IMO
        I have read the transcripts of all the interviews {I have them and will post here}

        Julian Assange is adamant that Donald Trump is be not allowed to win and this can still be the case with what`s transpiring in the US NOW-
        InTheTrough ‏@Biggy1883 13m13 minutes ago
        BREAKING: Democrats Submitted Measure MINUTES Ago That Could Steal Presidency From Trump https://conservativedailypost.com/breaking-democrats-submitted-measure-minutes-ago-that-could-steal-presidency-from-trump/

        George Bush is guilty of war crimes and invaded Iraq on a lie {WMD`s}
        Obama did the same in Libya when HRC was SoS and he managed to keep a relatively hands off approach maintaining the domestic front

        Half the nation didn`t vote,not because of Wikileaks but because of THREE glaring factors

        1- there`s always a high non voter turnout in US elections

        2- Republican voter suppression -the documentations are now coming out as the the suppression [we`ll all learn more by end of next week

        3- Bernie Sanders supporters believe he was done in by corrupt vote counting in the DNC

        When these things are factored in Assange is a whistle blower,not a Republican supporter or friend of Trump

        This interview has the full transcript
        https://www.rt.com/news/365405-assange-pilger-full-transcript/

        I truly understand the frustration,but we had the same here in Australia in July
        The world`s gone nutz 😡

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        Posted by Bighead1883 | November 11, 2016, 8:45 pm
        • As I said in our other convos. I’ve never been a fan of Assange. I’ve always been confused why people think he is great. Sorry, what he did in this election disgusted me. As I said, if he was such a great hacker, why not produce stuff on Trump as well for balance. It was a targeted ploy to discredit Hilary to give Trump an edge. It has nothing to do with gender or a glass ceiling. It has to do with the fact that he would have been promised something if he did this. There is no way of telling the legitimacy of anything in this election. I would not be surprised if there was a corrupt vote count in this election. I’m not one for these types of conspiracy theories, but just the fact that everything Trump has blamed Hilary for – he has actually done. He kept harping on about how she got the questions. It was revealed today he was leaked questions. He was harping on about rigged election, it wouldn’t surprise me if he paid people off to do something. I’m not sure. There is so much wrong with the entire situation, it does not make sense. If Bernie supporters stayed home, they are as bad as the Greens wanting to hand the leadership to the Libs every election.

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          Posted by trishcorry | November 11, 2016, 8:53 pm
          • OK,the possibility of promise is real-politics has strange bedfellows far too often

            As for hacking,Assange clearly states information is freely given by those disenchanted with how things are and it comes from within the US military complex

            Producing things on Trump
            Trump admits as a brag to sexual assault [pussy grabbing] [forceful kissing]
            He`s currently to appear in court for child rape
            There are over a dozen women who`ve made official complaints as to being sexually assaulted by him
            He`s been bankrupt 5 times
            He`s openly racist-sexist and a misogynist
            He`s a tax avoider
            He has Saudi backers [well known]
            Putin was openly backing him
            And still he won? [who in their right mind would vote for him and also remember they won both houses,comfortably}

            If our opinions on Assange/Pilger differ,so be it
            I believe that journalism should have no fear or favour

            But here are some other facts
            The Obama administration has had Assange as a political prisoner for 4 years
            Hillary Clinton is on record saying {can`t we just us a drone on him?}

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            Posted by Bighead1883 | November 11, 2016, 9:26 pm
        • Pilger and Assange being journo’s
          Pilger post election
          Interesting

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          Posted by cornlegend | November 11, 2016, 9:08 pm
          • I was showing this same vid on twitter just now as well -you looking in my PC comrade 😯

            Both sides in the US are full on war mongers and have been at war full time since I`ve been on Earth

            This interview shows how brilliant Pilger really is

            His advocacy here in Australia for our First Australians { his movie Utopia} is eye opening and get across to the masses in the cities

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            Posted by Bighead1883 | November 11, 2016, 9:38 pm
      • I think it’s just easy to put corrupt on Clinton’s name and there are many reasons. If we all stop and think for a moment, how much does this presidential campaign cost? Whoever funded her campaign are the one’s that will run the US government if she was elected, not her! You choose to see what you want to see, hear what you want to hear.
        You are worried about WW happening again and people dying? This notorious jihadist group, called Isil or Isis, is created largely with money from people who are giving money to the Clinton Foundation, I guess you haven’t heard. According to the Clinton Foundation, the Saudi Arabian government has donated between $10m (£8m) and $25million since the foundation was set up in 1997. Last month it was reported the government of Qatar offered to donate $1m to the foundation in celebration of Bill Clinton’s birthday. And let’s not asked why they sold more advanced weaponry to Saudi, right? The biggest ever sale of weaponry to Saudi Arabia happened while Clinton was the secretary of state (and we thought they were just nice to donate that much money, right).
        Which form of government destabilised the Middle East again? that created these migration issue affected the world. How many innocents died there? No one told Clinton to lie repeatedly and was proven, no one told her to “bleach delete” the emails that was asked by the congress as evidence for on going investigation for Benghazi. 40 yrs in politics, she knew it was illegal to have many personal server, she said it was an honest mistake, I just can’t believed how many people bought it. Anyone could’ve won the election against Trump by the way the corrupt mainstream media played it but Clinton. Her campaign team couldn’t save her, she dug her own grave. Remember how Hilary was so worried about Trumps supporter not accepting the result of this election? I think Obama and Hilary needs to make a public announcement to stop these riots, unless of course they encourage these.
        Honestly, I think the Americans voted for change, everyone should respect this and we all should help them unite as one! I don’t want to offend anyone here but I understand if you do. I’m just tired of seeing people scared of being associated with Trump because they get labeled and degraded by having a different view. I can’t stand the pure arrogance. I wonder how many people really watch the full speech of Trump that they keep getting offended by it.

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        Posted by Soul | November 14, 2016, 2:44 pm
  12. Optional voting and 60 million vote for Donald,
    one,
    I’m a Muslim, a woman and an immigrant. I voted for Trump.
    The Washington Post
    3 hrs ago

    Asra Q. Nomani is a former Wall Street Journal reporter and a co-founder of the Muslim Reform Movement. She can be found on Twitter at @AsraNomani.

    A lot is being said now about the “silent secret Trump supporters.”

    This is my confession — and explanation: I — a 51-year-old, a Muslim, an immigrant woman “of color” — am one of those silent voters for Donald Trump. And I’m not a “bigot,” “racist,” “chauvinist” or “white supremacist,” as Trump voters are being called, nor part of some “whitelash.”

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    Posted by cornlegend | November 11, 2016, 7:04 pm
    • Considering that she is in a minority in her demographic bracket, does not mean she stands for the majority of people she claims to represent. Anyone who supports Donald Trump enables absolutely everything she just said she was not.

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      Posted by trishcorry | November 11, 2016, 7:46 pm
  13. Julian Assange has gone from the darling of the Left {Iraq War, millions of releases} to the whipping boy for daring to include Hillary in his releases
    Wikileaks staff also had involvement

    “We are the WikiLeaks staff, including Sarah Harrison. Over the last months we have published over 25,000 emails from the DNC, over 30,000 emails from Hillary Clinton, over 50,000 emails from Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta and many chapters of the secret controversial Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA).

    The Clinton campaign unsuccessfully tried to claim that our publications are inaccurate. WikiLeaks’ decade-long pristine record for authentication remains. As Julian said: “Our key publications this round have even been proven through the cryptographic signatures of the companies they passed through, such as Google. It is not every day you can mathematically prove that your publications are perfect but this day is one of them.”

    We have been very excited to see all the great citizen journalism taking place here at Reddit on these publications, especially on the DNC email archive and the Podesta emails.

    Recently, the White House, in an effort to silence its most critical publisher during an election period, pressured for our editor Julian Assange’s publications to be stopped. The government of Ecuador then issued a statement saying that it had “temporarily” severed Mr. Assange’s internet link over the US election. As of the 10th his internet connection has not been restored. There has been no explanation, which is concerning.

    WikiLeaks has the necessary contingency plans in place to keep publishing. WikiLeaks staff, continue to monitor the situation closely.

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    Posted by cornlegend | November 11, 2016, 7:38 pm
    • I think he should be jailed for life. To do this to support a man who may incite world war out of self interest, is sickening. Some things are bigger than one’s own self-importance.

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      Posted by trishcorry | November 11, 2016, 7:48 pm
      • The Independent ‏@Independent 9m9 minutes ago
        Mark Zuckerberg responds to accusations Facebook helped Donald Trump win http://ind.pn/2fHOXJx

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        Posted by Bighead1883 | November 11, 2016, 10:58 pm
      • Where do you get your facts from woman? This is how the mainstream media lost it’s credibility. You just say anything you like cause you can. You either don’t want to know the truth or can’t handle it.

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        Posted by Soul | November 14, 2016, 6:50 pm
        • When disputing an article with the author,how about being specific as to your query?

          Replying to you in the same vain you do

          Can`t you ask a proper question whoever the fork you are,don`t you want to see another POV other then MSM?

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          Posted by Bighead1883 | November 14, 2016, 7:00 pm
        • Hi Soul. I also don’t know what your question is. Which ‘Facts’ are you talking about? Then I can tell you where I got the facts from. If I knew what the ‘Truth was’ I could also let you know if I could or could not handle it.

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          Posted by trishcorry | November 14, 2016, 7:19 pm
      • You do have to wonder about Assange and Wikileaks. If they really want to claim to be journalists and present the truth, then they needed to expose both sides and publish both sides. As they only launched major releases on one side, then this was simply propaganda, not journalism. We heard lots about wikileaks and HRC but we didn’t hear anything about wikileaks and Trump. If they are so good at what they do, why wasn’t time spent on Trump as well? Was there a deal done to protect Julian if only HRC exposés were published? Now that sounds like a crazy conspiracy, but why were there only exposés about one side? Couldn’t they have at least looked at his tax returns, his financial status, his dealings with past quest entrants, his multitude of “stiffed” sub-contractors, his bankruptcies? Then they could claim the higher moral ground about releasing the emails of HRC.

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        Posted by John Madden (@john_jmadden) | November 16, 2016, 12:53 pm
        • Exactly. Abc announced this morning he can leave the embassy now and not get arrested by USA and he will appeal to Trump for immunity and release. Sickening

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          Posted by trishcorry | November 16, 2016, 2:02 pm
          • From late 2010 right up to the 2012 US Federal Election Wikileaks?Assange dumped millions of cables [cablegate in Washington terms] concerning US war crimes done by the Bush administration
            We all know of the political prisoner of Chelsea Manning and julian Assange
            Those revealed war crimes showed us not only what we already knew {No WMD`s} but they showed us the criminal barbarity of US forces etc etc
            Did this help Obama get elected in 2012 [probably} as to what amount I`m not that much of a US Political scholar

            I have been very avid though since Kevin` 07 though

            Now when the NSA,allegedly leaked, the FBI leaked that they did [and others] leaked to Wikileaks [phew] it was about the
            1- The US/Nato attack on Serbia
            2- US/Nato attack on Libya with supplying ISIS weapons/military assistance/air cover etc in
            3-Iraq and Syria
            4-It`s open knowledge now that al Qaeda/ISIS/ISIL are one and the baby of the US {Hillary Clinton`s babies so to speak as she was Secretary of State}
            5- The email trail is not irrelevant or minor,it shows the day to day running of terrorists and the logistics

            I personally believe Trump is insane and what will happen I don`t know

            If HRC had of won she is shown on media as saying that she would destroy Iran for Israel
            I believed when Obama won that the wars would stop,but they grew instead and would continue to grow under Clinton

            So IMO the choice was between a Sexual Deviant Insane Narcissistic Trump
            or
            A we cam we saw and he died continuing warmonger Clinton

            If I was an American living there it would have been the first time I would never have voted because I`m totally anti war {actively protested the Vietnam War} {protest the Iraq 2 invasion as a keyboard warrior
            I also actively protested [arrested] against Apartheid in not only South Africa but Australia

            Disclaimer
            These are my personal opinions and have nothing to do with this sites owner

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            Posted by Bighead1883 | November 16, 2016, 3:50 pm
            • Biggy I think the thing for me as I said before just dumping stuff without vetting it, without using discretion that “Oh that might Start a war” to do this to personally interfere in a democratic election is twisted regardless of who it benefitted or harmed. I don’t see that as journalism. Journalists don’t just dump stuff on the public and say “there you go. The context is what you make of it.” I am anti war too. I wish we could all live in peace.

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              Posted by trishcorry | November 16, 2016, 4:01 pm
              • Well there`s a bigger problem,the media wouldn`t take up the well know ISIS/US Military link even though it was exposed
                What the conservative media there was on about was 1- death of US Ambassador 2-that she used a private server and not the State Department one
                The war crimes exposed are not an issue to Americans,but Kim Kardashain`s butt size is

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                Posted by Bighead1883 | November 16, 2016, 4:18 pm
        • Wikileaks and Trump
          That would mean that someone/agency etc would have had to leak to Wikileaks something concerning him,do you agree with that?

          Now as for HRC,the NSA {National Security Agency} was the main leaker and they leaked to Wikileaks and to the FBI

          Trump put enough filth out on himself,yet he still got elected
          So there are two factors at work here
          1- Jill Stein [Greens} and her percentage looks like it cost HRC Florida

          2- and this is the by far biggest one-Voter suppression in the RED States

          Both Pilger and Assange are being journalists,the interviews are here in the comments

          Question-what could have Wikileaks have revealed about Trump that`s more damaging than his self admission being a sexual deviate and sexual assault perp-having child rape charges put on him last week [his lawyers currently trying to slow the case until after his inauguration-his bankruptcies-his blatant racism/sexism/misogynist behaviour-his apartheid wall etc etc

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          Posted by Bighead1883 | November 16, 2016, 3:02 pm
  14. I think the arrogance of the RWNJs will come back to bite them. They refuse to take responsibility and miss the real reason for protest i.e. dis empowerment, so they will be looking the wrong way when the protest turns on them as the incumbents of power

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    Posted by Gilly | November 11, 2016, 8:01 pm
  15. See this is the extreme Left in action. If it’s not what they believe in . Your a women hating, gay bashing racist. I have never read/seen such racist writing as from this women. Doesn’t she know if you hate someone for there views she is in fact a racist bigot herself . How come you leftie’s are the only one’s aloud to stick up for yourself and the crap you push down our throats ???

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    Posted by Bazza Butler | November 13, 2016, 12:10 am
    • What`s up Bazza,the mirror not agreeing with your sexist/racist/misogynist Murdoch view

      Your lot writing in the LtdNews rags have given you a ,”only we can tell them mentality”

      The crap being pushed down your throat comes from your MSM arse kissing

      Don`t be so vigorous at it

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      Posted by Bighead1883 | November 13, 2016, 6:07 am

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Trish Corry

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I love to discuss Australian Politics. My key areas of interest are Welfare, Disadvantage, emotions in the workplace, organisational behaviour, stigma, leadership, women, unionism. I am pro-worker and anti-conservativism/Liberalism. I am a proud member of the Australian Labor Party and you will find my blog posts written from a Laborist / Progressive Slant.

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